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seth
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Help: Some simple web pages do not load Reply with quote

[I am using a T-mobile Dash running Windows Mobile 5.0 SmartPhone with Messaging and Security Feature Pack. Version 5.1.342. ]

Some simple web pages do not load. They simply show some small number of KB (about 4-20KB) on the progress bar and then stop. The page never displays.

This is using the version if IE mobile that came with the dash (on WM5).

When I say "simple" I mean, no flash,. No PHP…essentially plain HTML

I suspect this is NOT a network problem as the same pages load fine if I use Opera Mobile instead of IE.

An example of a simple page that will not load in IE mobile for me is:
http://www.d20srd.org/

From the same site though, the following page loads FINE:
http://www.d20srd.org/extras/characterRecord.htm

The main difference I can see is that the problem page has columns.

So my questions are:

  • Does anybody have any idea how to fix this?
  • Do other WM5 SmartPhone users have a problem loading the example problem page using IE on their dashes?
  • What other information can I provide that would help diagnose this issue?



My relevant settings are:
IE >> Menu >> Tools > Options >> Connections

[ ] Automatically detect settings.
(checked or unchecked does not seem to matter)

Select network: The Internet

Settings >> Connections >> Menu (Rt softkey) >> Advanced:

Internet connection: T-mobile Data

Settings >> Connections >> GPRS >> T-mobile Data

Connects to: The Internet

Access point: wap.voicestream.com
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Mike Temporale
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Help: Some simple web pages do not load Reply with quote

seth wrote:
When I say "simple" I mean, no flash,. No PHP…essentially plain HTML


Well, to start - there is no flash player for the Smartphone. So I'm not surprised that you don't see flash content. Wink

As for PHP, that's a server side thing. You're not running PHP on the client browser. So this isn't a problem with your phone/IE Mobile. The fact that the page is written in PHP has nothing to do with the fact you can't see it on the device. Heck, this site is PHP and I read it all the time on my phone. Very Happy

IE Mobile is not the same as IE 6 or IE 7. It's more like IE4 or so. There's a good chance that the site is using something that IE Mobile can't handle. Opera Mobile is a totaly different browser and supports different things.
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seth
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I was not clearer. When I said:

"When I say "simple" I mean, no flash,. No PHP…essentially plain HTML"

What I meant was thet the page I am trying to lod has NO flash and NO PHP. i.e. that it is a 'simple' web page.

Thanks
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seth
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I copied the problem page (http://www.d20srd.org/) to my own web server so I could investigate the problem

It uses a CSS:
http://www.d20srd.org/styles/home.css

The first line of this CSS is:
@import "main.css";


I found that if and only if I removed this first line, then IE mobile on my WM5 device loads the page just fine. I also verified that while the non-problem page does use CSS, that CSS has NO imports.

So one conclusion is that my IE mobile is choking on CSS imports.

Still no solution though Sad
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bshpmark
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Same problemon my Dash Reply with quote

I am having a similar problem on my Dash with some web pages not loading all the way. For example, at the xda-developers web site they have a page that has WM5 tweaks. The page loads completely on my SDA but stops loading at about 78K on my Dash. I have to press the STOP key to get the loading process to stop. Only a small portion of the page then displays. Never had a problem with any pages displaying on the SDA.
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seth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would really appreciate it if others could test their Dashes and let me know if they have this problem or not, and what version of ROM and WM they have.

Use this page to test if you have the issue:
http://www.d20srd.org/
loads or it does not load.

ROM version
Start >> Settings >> System Information >> ROM version

Windows version
Start >> Settings >> System Information >> About >> OS

Mine is:
- does NOT load
- ROM version: 1.11.531.1
- Windows version: 5.1.342 (Build 15097.3.0.1)
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bshpmark
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That page doesnotload on my Dash either.

ROM: 1.11.531.1
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Mike Temporale
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seth wrote:
I would really appreciate it if others could test their Dashes and let me know if they have this problem or not, and what version of ROM and WM they have.


I think you'll find that EVERYONE has the same version of WinMo on their Dash. It's too soon for T-Mo or HTC to have released any updates. Further, IE Mobile is not a full featured browser. It doesn't support everything that it's desktop counterpart does. For that matter, it doesn't support the same things as Opera Mobile.
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seth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Temporale wrote:
I think you'll find that EVERYONE has the same version of WinMo on their Dash.


Thank you. Good to know

Quote:
Further, IE Mobile is not a full featured browser. It doesn't support everything that it's desktop counterpart does. For that matter, it doesn't support the same things as Opera Mobile.


Yeah, I know. But I have confirmed reports that some Dash users can load this page, and others have the same exact problem I have.... so it is not a IEM feature support issue
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.d20srd.org/ ......stops loading at 4kb on my Dash, and
http://www.d20srd.org/styles/home.css gives me an error saying it cannot be viewed on my device. Of course I don't know if it's supposed to load on my device or a desktop.
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