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HARDWARE - Cingular 2125 Smartphone is Now Available

Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:00 pm
Post subject: Cingular 2125 Smartphone is Now Available
Folks, the Cingular 2125 Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone is now available on Cingular's Web site for $299. With a two year contract rebate the price comes down to $199. Smile

<img src="/images/Kris-Dec05-2125a.jpg">

Never before has a Smartphone's looks evoked strong responses from our readers. This Smartphone is different from the run-of-the-mill smart phones, camera phones and music phones. According to one our readers, Rebecca, it has created for itself a category called the HumpPhone. Laughing Love it, hate it; It has tons of awesome features minus the Wi-Fi, at an awesome price. Here is the specifications as per Cingular's Web site:

• Microsoft® Windows Mobile™ 5.0 Smartphone Edition
• Windows Media®Player 10 for playing music and video
• Bluetooth® connectivity for connecting wireless accessories
• 1.3 MP camera and video phone
• GPRS/EDGE High-Speed Data Access
• 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - Quad-band for international compatibility
• Large 2.2" TFT color display
• 64 MB SDRAM/64 MB Flash ROM
• Office™ Mobile - Outlook™/Word™/Excel™/Explorer™

• TI OMAP 850 200MHz processor
• Pocket MSN® (Hotmail®/MSN Messenger)
• Multimedia messaging - send text, pictures and sound
• Downloadable polyphonic/full-audio ringtones, graphics and games
• Stereo audio jack for listening to music

And last but not the least, it has a hump to improve the reception. Wink
Bohemian - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:48 pm
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So I got a smt5600 a bit over a month ago(so no return) and am now a existing customer under a 2 year contract. If I want to get this phone, anyone know what the cost would be?
jfreiman - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:50 pm
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Well, it may be available online, but it's not at my local Cingular owned store in San Francisco.

They don't know when it will be coming in stock, but offered to put me on a waiting list.

-John
DarienA - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:53 pm
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Does this phone have a miniSD slot? I've seen a few specs listed around that said it did....
optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:54 pm
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optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:55 pm
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Bohemian wrote:
So I got a smt5600 a bit over a month ago(so no return) and am now a existing customer under a 2 year contract. If I want to get this phone, anyone know what the cost would be?


if you are already in a contract and cant upgrade or you want to buy this phone outright the cost is $399.99 according to my pricesheet here in the store.
optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:03 pm
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jfreiman wrote:
Well, it may be available online, but it's not at my local Cingular owned store in San Francisco.

They don't know when it will be coming in stock, but offered to put me on a waiting list.

-John


they only get what the manager orders, you gotta go there and tell the manager to get on the ball. before a phone is released the manager is given a list of phones that are available or will be available soon and they pick and choose which ones they want at there locations. at least this is how it works in my market. since the phone is already released all they have to do is call their operations manager and put in a special request to have the phone shipped out.

dont wait for them to get it in stock because the phone has a fairly hefty retail value on it so most stores wont even just get them unless their already sold. just go and ask to place a special order. if they dont do that for you theyre not to bright because thats money out of their paycheck Wink
jfreiman - Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:17 pm
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optikalsaint wrote:
jfreiman wrote:
Well, it may be available online, but it's not at my local Cingular owned store in San Francisco.

They don't know when it will be coming in stock, but offered to put me on a waiting list.

-John


they only get what the manager orders, you gotta go there and tell the manager to get on the ball. before a phone is released the manager is given a list of phones that are available or will be available soon and they pick and choose which ones they want at there locations. at least this is how it works in my market. since the phone is already released all they have to do is call their operations manager and put in a special request to have the phone shipped out.

dont wait for them to get it in stock because the phone has a fairly hefty retail value on it so most stores wont even just get them unless their already sold. just go and ask to place a special order. if they dont do that for you theyre not to bright because thats money out of their paycheck Wink


How long do special orders take? Would I be better off ordering it off the Cingular site or try the special order?
Bohemian - Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:41 pm
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DarienA wrote:
Does this phone have a miniSD slot? I've seen a few specs listed around that said it did....


This site shows Slot MiniSD Yes
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/smartdevices.asp?phonemarketid=229
palmsolo - Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:49 pm
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Is this spec right? • Office™ Mobile - Outlook™/Word™/Excel™/Explorer™

I have a i-mate SP5m and don't see any Office Mobile functionality. At Mobius they said this was under development so I doubt that Office Mobile is on this device. Maybe they meant there are ClearVue readers included or something.
aarcam - Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:53 pm
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Out here in LA the rebate does not show!?!? Is it a limited # of rebates or is it geographically limited? I would consider it for $200, but not the $300 list or $400 w/o contract.

The SP5 is not that much more if I want to stay out of contract and I get wi-fi, plus an unlocked phone, plus the freedom to leave if they irk me too much (priceless Very Happy )
optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:07 pm
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jfreiman wrote:
How long do special orders take? Would I be better off ordering it off the Cingular site or try the special order?


prolly through the website. a special order could take several days but youre waiting on other people to get off their bums and get it done and sometimes people can get lazy. at least online its garunteed to get there quickly and i believe you can order next day shipping Smile
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:11 pm
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palmsolo wrote:
Is this spec right? • Office™ Mobile - Outlook™/Word™/Excel™/Explorer™

I have a i-mate SP5m and don't see any Office Mobile functionality. At Mobius they said this was under development so I doubt that Office Mobile is on this device. Maybe they meant there are ClearVue readers included or something.


I was surprised about that myself. I forgot to put this icon Confused against that spec. Wonder what it means? As you suggested does it mean ClearVue? But then they have the TM mark against Office Mobile. Confused

Will have to wait till some one gets their hands on this Smartphone.
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:39 pm
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My local Corporate Cingular store doesn't seem to know much. On the phone they said "Oh we expect them in today". When I got there "Oh we don't expect them in for a couple weeks". Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing as usual.
stevew - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:39 pm
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I just can't take that hump. I'd never be happy with it. My 4th MPX 220 is working fine so I think I'll wait. Wink
OSUKid7 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:43 pm
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Well the Cingular store where I got my SMT5600 doesn't expect getting the 2125 until January, but another Columbus store is expecting it sometime this week. Smile
aguaron - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:49 pm
Post subject: SMT5600 - Cingular 2125
I've got my first Smartphone 1 week ago (Audiovox SMT5600) pretty happy with it, should be woth it to exchange it for this new one? or I should wait for something better? ( wi-fi..etc)

I would really like to know if the diffrence between having EDGE or not should make a huge difference in speed and as a modem/laptop too.

Thanks.
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:56 pm
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stevew wrote:
I just can't take that hump. I'd never be happy with it. My 4th MPX 220 is working fine so I think I'll wait. Wink


Your Mpx220 has a hump too ya know. Laughing
apeguero - Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:59 pm
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You wouldn't catch me dead with that phone. I don't think the hump is a big deal. I've seen a lot of flip phones out with similar humps. I had the SMT5600 and found it worthless when it came to typing - anything, be it email, text message, web URLs, etc.

I got a chance to try out Sprints HTC 6700 (with the slide in/out keypad) and was very impressed, plus it has the PPC version of WM5 which undoubtedly has Mobile Office. I'll wait for the 8125 from Cingular which is the same phone, I think. I'll also check out the new Treo 700w when Verizon finally decides to make it available.

For now I'll have to stick out a little longer with my love/hate relationship with my Treo 650. I'm up on the fence right now of whether I want to switch service providers and go CDMA with Verizon and their Treo 700w or stick with GSM and Cingular by going with the 8125. I don't think the 2125 is all that people are making out to be.
Starkenator - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:25 pm
Post subject: 2125 Manual? Supported BT profiles?
Does anyone have a link to the 2125 manual? I would like to know about which bluetooth profiles are supported as well as info on the office mobile offering.
mbranscum - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:26 pm
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Our Corp Store Manager said it may be a few months before they start carrying them.
nskgti - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:28 pm
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mbranscum wrote:
Our Corp Store Manager said it may be a few months before they start carrying them.


He is an idiot...
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:32 pm
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One gets many conflicting reports from different stores and different employees in the same store. I predict it will start showing up in a week.
OSUKid7 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:42 pm
Post subject: Re: SMT5600 - Cingular 2125
aguaron wrote:
I've got my first Smartphone 1 week ago (Audiovox SMT5600) pretty happy with it, should be woth it to exchange it for this new one? or I should wait for something better? ( wi-fi..etc)

That's the tough question. I just signed up with Cingular and got the SMT5600 two weeks ago, and I'm going to exchange it for the 2125. Sure I'd like WiFi and no hump, but hey, I may not get another smartphone for over a year since the prices aren't exactly low. IMO, it's worth the trade up since after 30 days, I'll be stuck with the same phone unless I want to pay a lot more.

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I would really like to know if the diffrence between having EDGE or not should make a huge difference in speed and as a modem/laptop too.

I'm not exactly sure of the throughput differences between GPRS and EDGE, but any increase will help when using the smartphone as a modem. Smile
aguaron - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:48 pm
Post subject: Windows Mobile 5???
If the Cingular 2125 Cingular comes with WM5 , all the apps for Windows 2003 SE (NewsBreak, Clearvue , etc) will work on the new OS?

Somebody now if is it possible in Outlook to read html e-mail ( or a 3rd party app??)

Thanks
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:59 pm
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A lot of software vendors already have versions that run on WM5. Some of the old apps MAY work. You'll need to check with each vendor to see.

There is still no way to read HTML email on Smartphone Outlook as far as I know. No third party apps that I know of either. Sad
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:12 pm
Post subject: Re: SMT5600 - Cingular 2125
aguaron wrote:

I would really like to know if the diffrence between having EDGE or not should make a huge difference in speed and as a modem/laptop too.


I think it would make huge difference. EDGE is easily 3-4 times faster than GPRS. Cool
optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:19 pm
Post subject: Re: SMT5600 - Cingular 2125
OSUKid7 wrote:
I'm not exactly sure of the throughput differences between GPRS and EDGE, but any increase will help when using the smartphone as a modem. Smile


GPRS averages about 30-56Kbp/s (dial up speed), EDGE averages about 110-150Kbp/s (closer to ISDN speeds). Remember that these speeds are kilobits (Kb) not kilobytes (KB)

so really with EDGE speeds youre only really downloading at 10-20K. not exactly as high speed as they say huh? to bad there are no UMTS smartphones released in the states yet Sad
aguaron - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:25 pm
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You are right , before buying the smt5600 I've tried the Motorola V557 that has EDGE and the speed wasnt impressive at all, almos the same as the Smt5600, and I think has to do with the signal strenght too, becasue sometimes the Audiovox is really fast.
mbranscum - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:31 pm
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nskgti wrote:
mbranscum wrote:
Our Corp Store Manager said it may be a few months before they start carrying them.


He is an idiot...


Actually he is a she. Why is she an idiot?
optikalsaint - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:34 pm
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well for mobile phones EDGE would be fast but for WM smartphones where you can easily download 400k when opening up a page (coolsmartphone.com for example or even SPT where i have never managed to break 300k) its still a tad bit slow.

also in a lot of cities cingulars data service is REALLY slow. im not sure why. sometimes it can take me up to a minute to connect to a website with my cingular line where as with my tmobile line it takes seconds.

my honest opinion is cingulars data networks need a little bit of improvement, hopefully the UMTS service will be in tip top order Smile
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:50 pm
Post subject: Re: 2125 Manual? Supported BT profiles?
Starkenator wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the 2125 manual? I would like to know about which bluetooth profiles are supported as well as info on the office mobile offering.


Bless FCC for providing us this awesome user manual database. Wink

2125 User Manual I am sure the manual must undergo some updates. Or they may add last minute info as a separate brochure/pull-outs.
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:54 pm
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aguaron wrote:
You are right , before buying the smt5600 I've tried the Motorola V557 that has EDGE and the speed wasnt impressive at all, almos the same as the Smt5600, and I think has to do with the signal strenght too, becasue sometimes the Audiovox is really fast.


To take advantage of the faster download speeds, the browser and the phone's processor also need to contribute.

I know the pIE is slow in 2003 SE. That is why Opera shines. Hopefully WM5.0 pIE renders the page faster.
booku20 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:30 pm
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Does anybody know if a Mini SD Wireless card would work in the 2125 like the one found on the Amazon.Com site below?


Spectec Mini SD WiFi WLAN (802.11b) Card for PDA, Pocket PC, Smartphones and Laptops

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BYR972/qid=1134433788/sr=8-20/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl229/103-9961531-2681417?n=507846&s=office-products&v=glance[/img]
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:48 pm
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booku20 wrote:
Does anybody know if a Mini SD Wireless card would work in the 2125 like the one found on the Amazon.Com site below?


Spectec Mini SD WiFi WLAN (802.11b) Card for PDA, Pocket PC, Smartphones and Laptops

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BYR972/qid=1134433788/sr=8-20/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl229/103-9961531-2681417?n=507846&s=office-products&v=glance[/img]


I don't think it will fit inside the miniSD slot because it is located under the battery on the 2125. Sad

The miniSD card has the following dimension .8" x .8" x .05" (LxWxD) and this card has 1.1 x 0.8 x 0.1.
grinny11 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:55 pm
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I have the qtek 9100 which will be the 8125 and it has edge. it is so much better than gprs. even my friend who used my 5600 noticed that internet is a lot fastertheb my old phone. IE is a lot faster and I imagine it will be the same for the 2125 since it uses the same processor. I live in LA/orange county and edge works great here. I'm just waiting for opera for the pocket pc because I bet it will scream. btw surfing the net on my laptop as a modem is faster then the phone leaving me to believe that the edge is providing data faster then what pocket IE can handle
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:11 pm
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grinny11 wrote:
btw surfing the net on my laptop as a modem is faster then the phone leaving me to believe that the edge is providing data faster then what pocket IE can handle


That is a correct assumption. Smile
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:19 pm
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So the BIG question Question Who all have placed an order? (And who all are waiting for it to show up in the stores first? So that you can check out the hump;-))

Smile
Rebecca - Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:25 pm
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stevew wrote:
I just can't take that hump. I'd never be happy with it. My 4th MPX 220 is working fine so I think I'll wait. Wink



Take it with a full glass of water on an empty stomach :p
booku20 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:39 pm
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Like all things, I'm waiting to check out the hump. I just wish Cingular could get their act together so they could tell me when to expect it. I hate waiting for the hump.
raaden - Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:54 pm
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Kris Kumar wrote:
So the BIG question Question Who all have placed an order? (And who all are waiting for it to show up in the stores first? So that you can check out the hump;-))

Smile


I am going to try both... although I am not sure what I will get from either. I put in an order over the internet at the Store and the guy I talked to said he would call me if they got any of them in today or tomorrow so I can cancel my online order. Although he said he has heard that 16 Jan is the day they get to the store.

Here's hoping there's a new toy to play with this weekend while the wife shops for Christmas.
choo_choo - Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:41 pm
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That's sorta cheap. No case included. No earbuds/headphones. The AT&T SMT5600 had both for less $.
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:01 pm
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choo_choo wrote:
That's sorta cheap. No case included. No earbuds/headphones. The AT&T SMT5600 had both for less $.


You are right it is not listed along with the product. Confused

But the FCC details included the case and stereo headsets. Confused
markus01 - Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:15 pm
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Has anybody on a legacy at&t wireless voice plan been able to upgrade to the 2125?

I called the business care(less) line today, and apparently I have to switch to a new Cingular plan to be able to upgrade to this phone.

Is this just typical Cingular screw-age, or does it have something to do with accessing the edge network I wonder...?

I can't switch to a new plan since they don't offer a North America wide calling plan anymore...
optikalsaint - Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:12 am
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markus01 wrote:
Has anybody on a legacy at&t wireless voice plan been able to upgrade to the 2125?

I called the business care(less) line today, and apparently I have to switch to a new Cingular plan to be able to upgrade to this phone.

Is this just typical Cingular screw-age, or does it have something to do with accessing the edge network I wonder...?

I can't switch to a new plan since they don't offer a North America wide calling plan anymore...


the simple answer, at&t sim cards dont work in cingular phones. part of the merger agreement was that at&t reserved the write to use the at&t wireless name in the future to start another wireless company so cingular had to phase out all at&t products which means if you want a phone upgrade you need a cingular phone
markus01 - Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:40 am
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optikalsaint wrote:


the simple answer, at&t sim cards dont work in cingular phones. part of the merger agreement was that at&t reserved the write to use the at&t wireless name in the future to start another wireless company so cingular had to phase out all at&t products which means if you want a phone upgrade you need a cingular phone


Seems like a plausible answer, but I've upgraded since AT&T was acquired by Cingular. Also, business care offered me an "upgrade" to a razr is I wanted. Maybe they are phasing out the dual branding of phones to force people off of legacy aws plans...

To add a bit more colour, I'm switching out of a Blackberry device to a Smartphone due to an employment change.

edit: My bad, mis understood your post. I guess they are now just starting to phase out.
jfreiman - Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:08 am
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I think I'm going to enjoy upgrading from the SMT5600 and will as soon as I can (availability)...

However, you would think that by Cingular taking out the middle man, Audiovox, the pricing of the phone could be better? How much do you think Audiovox cleared on each phone sold?

However, the upside could be more software/ROM updates as Orange and others have done.
Kris Kumar - Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:01 am
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jfreiman wrote:

However, you would think that by Cingular taking out the middle man, Audiovox, the pricing of the phone could be better? How much do you think Audiovox cleared on each phone sold?


Good point.

What is the retail price for the 2125? I mean the cost without the service agreement. I don't it is $299 (would be an awesome price if it is).
Dlogan - Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:35 am
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Kris Kumar wrote:
palmsolo wrote:
Is this spec right? • Office™ Mobile - Outlook™/Word™/Excel™/Explorer™

I have a i-mate SP5m and don't see any Office Mobile functionality. At Mobius they said this was under development so I doubt that Office Mobile is on this device. Maybe they meant there are ClearVue readers included or something.


I was surprised about that myself. I forgot to put this icon Confused against that spec. Wonder what it means? As you suggested does it mean ClearVue? But then they have the TM mark against Office Mobile. Confused


Actually the TM mark is only on Office and has nothing to do with Mobile.
jfreiman - Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:26 pm
Post subject:
Kris Kumar wrote:
jfreiman wrote:

However, you would think that by Cingular taking out the middle man, Audiovox, the pricing of the phone could be better? How much do you think Audiovox cleared on each phone sold?


Good point.

What is the retail price for the 2125? I mean the cost without the service agreement. I don't it is $299 (would be an awesome price if it is).


I believe that the price without service is $399.
Global Mobility! - Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:52 am
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Since there has been so many comments about the antenna cover on the Faraday I would think that once we see some spare SPV C600 parts come available, people will just swap their "humped" antenna for the smaller one as long as it doesn't affect RF performance too much.

Furthermore, I would like to think that someone at spv-developers or xda-developers will attempt to flash the ROM with a Tornado ROM to see if they can activate the 802.11 option. Unless we find out that the Faraday is simply missing the critical hardware required for 802.11b.
Mike Temporale - Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:03 am
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Global Mobility! wrote:
Unless we find out that the Faraday is simply missing the critical hardware required for 802.11b.


I expect you'll find that it's missing the hardware. But, I'm sure that someone will try it. Wink
jfreiman - Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:22 pm
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Well, I just spent about 25 minutes on the phone with Cingular ordering the Cingular 2125 - of course they didn't understand me when I told them the BRAND was Cingular! Wink

I was told by the sales woman that the phones didn't show as being "in stock" - however, they did show that 1,600 units were due to the warehouse - yesterday!

Well, out of pocket the phone cost me about $314.xx which includes the "3-5 day" shipping.

With any luck I will receive the phone early next week.

Has anyone else had any luck with ordering 2125?

-John
OSUKid7 - Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:42 pm
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On Monday, I called the store (call it store A) where I got my other phones and signed my contract in November. They weren't expecting to get the 2125 until January, but suggested I call a different store (call it store B) in the area since that store often gets new devices first. I did, and they were expecting the 2125 "soon," hopefully this week. I called store B back today, and the manager picked up. She said they still didn't have the 2125, and she couldn't order any until they sold all of the SMT5600s, but that she could put in a custom order for me. However, I told her I was trying to exchange my SMT5600 before Christmas since I signed a contract recently, and she wasn't sure the 2125 would arrive by then. She didn't give up though; she called the manager at store A (whom I had talked to about another issue last night, when she told me she really couldn't order the 2125 for me), and that manager agreed to order the 2125 for me, and I could still exchange my SMT5600 for it even if it came in after my 30-day return window is up. The manager of store B called me back right away and told me this good news. Smile So hopefully I'll have the 2125 before I return to college in January.

Kudos to the Cingular store managers in Columbus. Very Happy
raaden - Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:46 pm
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My order was put in online and although it took them three days to get it out the door, I got an email that it is in the UPS system and when I checked the status it says that scheduled delivery date is Friday. Laughing

It looks like I will have my new toy Drool..... ... errrr "Mobile Productivity Tool" for the weekend.

Does anyone know if the MediaNet unlimited plan qualifies for the $100 rebate or does it have to be the $49.99 data plan
jfreiman - Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:33 pm
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raaden wrote:
My order was put in online and although it took them three days to get it out the door, I got an email that it is in the UPS system and when I checked the status it says that scheduled delivery date is Friday. Laughing

It looks like I will have my new toy Drool..... ... errrr "Mobile Productivity Tool" for the weekend.

Does anyone know if the MediaNet unlimited plan qualifies for the $100 rebate or does it have to be the $49.99 data plan


I don't know about if the MediaNet unlimieted qualifies - it would be great if it did because the unlimited Data package is $44.99!! After two months with that rate and the $36 activation fee - you already have used up the rebate. I think I'm paying $19.99 for my current MediaWorks package and I don't like the idea of paying more per month.
optikalsaint - Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:40 pm
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raaden wrote:
My order was put in online and although it took them three days to get it out the door, I got an email that it is in the UPS system and when I checked the status it says that scheduled delivery date is Friday. Laughing

It looks like I will have my new toy Drool..... ... errrr "Mobile Productivity Tool" for the weekend.

Does anyone know if the MediaNet unlimited plan qualifies for the $100 rebate or does it have to be the $49.99 data plan


You only need MediaNET to qualify for the rebate, the $49.99 is the PDA connect package but since your using a phone and not a treo or pocketpc youre in the clear Smile
sosnow - Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:11 pm
Post subject: 2125 inhand
I too went through the hassels of Cingular customer service. I was migrating from ATT and having issues with the website and getting a different answer from each employee. Finally yesterday afternoon I spoke with someone who is a smartphone fan. He hooked me up and Fedex was at my door this afternoon.
I have been using the SMT5600 for over a year and have been very happy, except for the dust under the display. Sad
The 2125 display is awesome!! Even with the protective sheet on, it blows away the 5600.
There is a case and stereo headphones in the box.
So yes the 2125 is available if you get through the Cingular customer service maze!!!
markus01 - Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:29 am
Post subject: Re: 2125 inhand
sosnow wrote:
I too went through the hassels of Cingular customer service. I was migrating from ATT and having issues with the website and getting a different answer from each employee. Finally yesterday afternoon I spoke with someone who is a smartphone fan. He hooked me up and Fedex was at my door this afternoon.
I have been using the SMT5600 for over a year and have been very happy, except for the dust under the display. Sad
The 2125 display is awesome!! Even with the protective sheet on, it blows away the 5600.
There is a case and stereo headphones in the box.
So yes the 2125 is available if you get through the Cingular customer service maze!!!


Did you have to change your legacy blue service plan to a new orange service plan?
robertotores - Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:39 pm
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Hump Inside!
jfreiman - Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:46 pm
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jfreiman wrote:
Well, I just spent about 25 minutes on the phone with Cingular ordering the Cingular 2125 - of course they didn't understand me when I told them the BRAND was Cingular! Wink

I was told by the sales woman that the phones didn't show as being "in stock" - however, they did show that 1,600 units were due to the warehouse - yesterday!

Well, out of pocket the phone cost me about $314.xx which includes the "3-5 day" shipping.

With any luck I will receive the phone early next week.

Has anyone else had any luck with ordering 2125?

-John


Well, my phone shipped today and FedEx reports that it will get delivered this Monday!

I'm not going to br the first to have the phone on this forum, but I'll be the first of my friends to get one. Wink
optikalsaint - Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:46 pm
Post subject: Re: 2125 inhand
markus01 wrote:
sosnow wrote:
I too went through the hassels of Cingular customer service. I was migrating from ATT and having issues with the website and getting a different answer from each employee. Finally yesterday afternoon I spoke with someone who is a smartphone fan. He hooked me up and Fedex was at my door this afternoon.
I have been using the SMT5600 for over a year and have been very happy, except for the dust under the display. Sad
The 2125 display is awesome!! Even with the protective sheet on, it blows away the 5600.
There is a case and stereo headphones in the box.
So yes the 2125 is available if you get through the Cingular customer service maze!!!


Did you have to change your legacy blue service plan to a new orange service plan?


yes. unfortunatly if you want a new cingular phone at the discounted activation price you have to move off your old blue plan onto an orange plan. it might seem like a hassel but unless you are on the unlimited att plan there really shouldnt be a problem since the new orange plans are almost as good as the old blue ones and in some cases better (m2m, rollover, no romaing, no long distance charges, etc)
Kris Kumar - Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:20 pm
Post subject:
<img src="/images/Kris-dec05-2125MAD.jpg">

Okay, can someone explain the above screen shot.

I just remembered that I can get employee discount. So I decided to check the price. Guess what. The 2125 costs $679.99. Shocked Of course I do get the 40% employee discount, which brings the price down by $272.00. And a special Web discount, that adds another $138 discount. Which means I can get this Smartphone for $269.99. Evil or Very Mad Not to forget I still have to sign a 2 year contract. Twisted Evil

Do these people know what they are doing. I can get the Smartphone for $199 with a 2 year contract at the regular pricing. Isn't employee pricing supposed to be lower?

I like the way Cingular jacked up the price and then brought it down. But it is still not low or equal to the regular price. Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad
Jerry Raia - Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:05 pm
Post subject:
That price can't be right can it?? Shocked
optikalsaint - Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:11 pm
Post subject:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad
jfreiman - Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:17 pm
Post subject:
Three Cheers for FedEx!!!

My 2125 was scheduled to arrive on Monday via next day standard air and arrived today - 2 days early!

I'm so excited!!!!

I'm charging and syncing my phone as I write this and I love how there is a Media (Player) sync option in ActiveSync 4.1 when you have a 2005 device attached.

Yummy, yummy - this phone is beautiful and the slate gray is much nicer than the black color on the 5600.

-John
Kris Kumar - Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:22 pm
Post subject:
optikalsaint wrote:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad


So if I go to the store will I get 40% off the $199 price when I sign up for the two year contract. Surprised Where do I sign...where do I sign? Razz
Kris Kumar - Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:24 pm
Post subject:
jfreiman wrote:

My 2125 was scheduled to arrive on Monday via next day standard air and arrived today - 2 days early!

I'm so excited!!!!


Wow! I am sure you are planning on staying up all night. Smile Have fun...
Kris Kumar - Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:37 pm
Post subject:
jfreiman wrote:

Yummy, yummy - this phone is beautiful and the slate gray is much nicer than the black color on the 5600.


The one reason why I am thinking of getting the 2125. The T-Mobile SDA may have Wi-Fi, but I think 2125 has better looks. Smile [Plus I can better discount on Cingular.]

If I need the Wi-Fi, I should get the i-mate SP5 (the black one). Smile
Kris Kumar - Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:33 pm
Post subject:
optikalsaint wrote:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad


I am begining to hate the Cingular Customer Service already. Evil or Very Mad I haven't even signed up.

The online price seems to be weird (read over-priced). And seems like all the local stores do not have any plans to carry the Smartphone (because it is costly+slow mover) and are not willing to help me order one either. Sad
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:26 pm
Post subject:
OK I just ordered my 2125 from Cingular. I should have it in a couple of days. I did this for one reason really. I can't stand Mike gloating about his damn WM5 phone anymore! I wanna join the damn party!

Now I will. Mr. Green
jfreiman - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:33 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
OK I just ordered my 2125 from Cingular. I should have it in a couple of days. I did this for one reason really. I can't stand Mike gloating about his damn WM5 phone anymore! I wanna join the damn party!

Now I will. Mr. Green


If the Cingular salesperson didn't tell you, you can track your order online (after about 24 hours).

Log into your Cingular account, click on Service from the top menu (right side) and then click on Order Status from the "Quick List" on the left column.

Once I discovered that, I was checking every couple of hours! Wink

-John
PS. Make sure to order yourself a large(r) mini-SD card!!!
OSUKid7 - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:45 pm
Post subject:
jfreiman wrote:
PS. Make sure to order yourself a large(r) mini-SD card!!!

I'm planning on doing that as well, but the statement in the msmobile.com review worries me a little:
msmobiles.com - Cingular 2125 Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Review wrote:
The device constantly failed to recognize the Mini SD card

Anyone else have that problem?
jfreiman - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:47 pm
Post subject:
OSUKid7 wrote:
jfreiman wrote:
PS. Make sure to order yourself a large(r) mini-SD card!!!

I'm planning on doing that as well, but the statement in the msmobile.com review worries me a little:
msmobiles.com - Cingular 2125 Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Review wrote:
The device constantly failed to recognize the Mini SD card

Anyone else have that problem?


It sees my 512MB mini-SD card and I have a replacement 1GB coming in tomorrow.

I've had NO issues with the memory card.

Works perfectly with my new 1GB ATP card!
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:53 pm
Post subject:
jfreiman wrote:
If the Cingular salesperson didn't tell you, you can track your order online (after about 24 hours).


Yeah I got the number. Thanks to you I can now obsess over where it is every couple hours too! Actually I should have it tomorrow AM.
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:54 pm
Post subject:
OSUKid7 wrote:
jfreiman wrote:
PS. Make sure to order yourself a large(r) mini-SD card!!!

I'm planning on doing that as well, but the statement in the msmobile.com review worries me a little:
msmobiles.com - Cingular 2125 Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Review wrote:
The device constantly failed to recognize the Mini SD card

Anyone else have that problem?


I have had that happen from time to time with my 5600.
booku20 - Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:17 pm
Post subject:
Kris Kumar wrote:
optikalsaint wrote:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad


I am begining to hate the Cingular Customer Service already. Evil or Very Mad I haven't even signed up.

The online price seems to be weird (read over-priced). And seems like all the local stores do not have any plans to carry the Smartphone (because it is costly+slow mover) and are not willing to help me order one either. Sad


I wondered the same thing when I was looking at the "discounted" price that shows up under the FAN discount. I called the premier customer service and their explained the phone was not eligible for the $100 rebate, but you do get another $25 off at checkout, the activation fee is waived, and free shipping which shrinks the gap between the two. If a store near you has it, you can go in and get the phone for the cheaper price and the discounted service. If you don't have a store that's carrying the phone, you can purchase the phone and service through the regular internet and then call 1-866-355-8923 once your account is set up and let them know you are eligible for the FAN discount. They will ask you a couple questions to verify and then associate the discount with your account which means you should be receiving the discounted rate on your monthly statement. End result, jump through a few hoops and you can save a little cash.
booku20 - Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:28 pm
Post subject:
Final thoughts on the FAN vs. normal website purchasing: Total price for the phone came to $245 after all was said and done and the $36 activation fee and shipping were waived. I think you'll find that that's going to be as good a deal as any. Hope this helps.
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:22 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
OK I just ordered my 2125 from Cingular. I should have it in a couple of days. I did this for one reason really. I can't stand Mike gloating about his damn WM5 phone anymore! I wanna join the damn party!

Now I will. Mr. Green


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooh! Crying or Very sad

You beat me to it. Had it not been for the stupid corporate discount that I trying to get. I would have ordered by now.
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:27 pm
Post subject:
booku20 wrote:
Final thoughts on the FAN vs. normal website purchasing: Total price for the phone came to $245 after all was said and done and the $36 activation fee and shipping were waived. I think you'll find that that's going to be as good a deal as any. Hope this helps.


Thanks, I shall call Premier first and see what they say. But I like your idea o f doing it online and then calling Premier.
Mike Temporale - Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:41 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
OK I just ordered my 2125 from Cingular. I should have it in a couple of days. I did this for one reason really. I can't stand Mike gloating about his damn WM5 phone anymore! I wanna join the damn party!

Now I will. Mr. Green



Mr. Green
Kris Kumar - Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:48 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
OK I just ordered my 2125 from Cingular. I should have it in a couple of days. I did this for one reason really. I can't stand Mike gloating about his damn WM5 phone anymore! I wanna join the damn party!

Now I will. Mr. Green


Mike's Smartphone has Wi-Fi. Crying or Very sad
Jerry Raia - Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:02 pm
Post subject:
Kris Kumar wrote:
Mike's Smartphone has Wi-Fi. Crying or Very sad


I know. I really don't need it though. Besides my phone will have a hump and his doesn't! Mine is better!!!! Yessss! Cool
Kris Kumar - Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:28 pm
Post subject:
optikalsaint wrote:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad


Couldn't go to the store....but ordered one via phone. I hope it is correctly placed. Because I got a sweet sweet price.
optikalsaint - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:24 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
Kris Kumar wrote:
Mike's Smartphone has Wi-Fi. Crying or Very sad


I know. I really don't need it though. Besides my phone will have a hump and his doesn't! Mine is better!!!! Yessss! Cool


haha, i actually want to get the 2125, even though it doesnt have wifi, just because of the hump. i didnt like it at first but ive been playing with my friends and the hump has just started growing on me. its like your old 5600 hit puberty and its going through that weird growing phase Smile
Jerry Raia - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:41 pm
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Mine will arrive in about 18 hours Smile
Mike Temporale - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:43 pm
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I've already got my WinMo5 device. Wink
Jerry Raia - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:48 pm
Post subject:
Mike Temporale wrote:
I've already got my WinMo5 device. Wink


NOBODY CARES!!!
Kris Kumar - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:55 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
Mike Temporale wrote:
I've already got my WinMo5 device. Wink


NOBODY CARES!!!


Rolling Eyes Boys! Laughing
Mike Temporale - Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:57 pm
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
NOBODY CARES!!!


Sad Crying or Very sad

Just you wait until you get yours. Then you'll see. Very Happy
Jerry Raia - Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:14 pm
Post subject:
Mike Temporale wrote:
Just you wait until you get yours. Then you'll see. Very Happy


Mine will be better. End of issue! :clap:
jfreiman - Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:34 am
Post subject:
Jerry Raia wrote:
Mike Temporale wrote:
I've already got my WinMo5 device. Wink


NOBODY CARES!!!


I care! Welcome to the club! Wink
Jerry Raia - Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:40 am
Post subject:
I you folks think Mike was a pain with his new phone just wait till 3PM PST when mine arrives. Mr. Green
possmann - Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:23 am
Post subject: Decisions, Decisions...
Well I just got wind that the new Treo 700w is going to come out - most likely - next month on Verizon. What to do!?!?

In any case I think T-mo just lost me - no aggressive direction and the price points in plans now are very similar so, to Cing or Verz I go...

[/u]
booku20 - Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:29 pm
Post subject:
Kris Kumar wrote:
optikalsaint wrote:
It's always best to do the FAN discount in the stores. I have never met anyone that was able to get it done the right way online Sad


Couldn't go to the store....but ordered one via phone. I hope it is correctly placed. Because I got a sweet sweet price.


Kris,
I hope you went to the FAN website. They knocked another $100 off the price if you get a $39.99 or higher voice plan and $19.99 or higher data plan. Total with all the discounts for my phone I just ordered came to $144.99.
randalllewis - Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:15 pm
Post subject: Gotta love that Cingular staff
After reading several posts here about how Cingular staff were clueless about the 2125, I thought I'd try it myself. I went to a nearby Cingular company store (not an independent) and asked to see it. The first guy looked at me like I had two heads. He called a more senior person who also had not heard of it and said Cingular doesn't sell phones with its own name. Yada Yada Yada. I told them to check their own website (and this one too for that matter) where the phone is clearly listed and they said they couldn't find it. (The first guy scrolled through the phones on the Cingular site so fast they appeared a blur from my angle.) By this time, I was beginning to rethink my generally positive feelings about Cingular, when the more senior guy had a brainstorm. He said, I wonder if you're referring to the new Audiovox. He reaches to a spot behind the counter not a foot from where I was standing and hands me a demo model of the Cingular 2125. I told him to look at the phone carefully and he was shocked. Of course, as Thoughts readers know, the phone does not say Audiovox on it anywhere, but only Cingular 2125. He muttered about not knowing why Cingular was branding its own phones now, and quickly found another customer to attend to.

Meantime I took the model in hand. It was not a working model, but I liked the size and feel and the screen size is very nice. The joystick seemed loose on this sample and because it wasn't a working model, I couldn't tell if it was easy to use for navigation.

The hump was no big deal to me, so I think I am going to give it a try. I am in the market for something with more reliable PIM software than the RAZR offers. (I like the RAZR as a phone, but the contact and calendar sync software is awful.) I was interested in the Treo but I don't want to swtich to Verizon, so I think I'll give the reasonably priced 2125 a try- hump and all.
Kris Kumar - Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Gotta love that Cingular staff
randalllewis wrote:
After reading several posts here about how Cingular staff were clueless about the 2125, I thought I'd try it myself. I went to a nearby Cingular company store (not an independent) and asked to see it. The first guy looked at me like I had two heads. He called a more senior person who also had not heard of it and said Cingular doesn't sell phones with its own name. Yada Yada Yada. I told them to check their own website (and this one too for that matter) where the phone is clearly listed and they said they couldn't find it. ....


Don't you love it when you go to the store and know more than the salepeople. Rolling Eyes And people complain that stores are not doing well and people are shopping online. Rolling Eyes

Cingular should thank its stars for having a coverage better than T-Mobile and plan prices lower than Verizon (cooler phones than Verizon too). Otherwise no one would even walk into there stores or online site.
bz999 - Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:02 pm
Post subject: Retail Availability?
Any word yet when the 2125 will be inside the the cingular retail stores??
optikalsaint - Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Retail Availability?
bz999 wrote:
Any word yet when the 2125 will be inside the the cingular retail stores??


we have already had them at my store that i work at and sold out of em. we should be getting our second shipment this monday. the stores can order them and get them the problem is most managers still dont know that cingular has branded a phone or dont know how to place a special order Rolling Eyes
bz999 - Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Retail Availability?
bz999 wrote:
Any word yet when the 2125 will be inside the the cingular retail stores??


Just called 14 stores. 1 said "oh yeah, we got it". so i get there. they just got in a demo phone. i was pretty upset. however a regional dude was there and said he can check live inventory anywhere and will notify when it is available in any of the stores in my area. ok. still no phone.
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