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Jason Dunn
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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oturn wrote: |
GPRS faster? Wow, you must have a great connection, and unlimited data! |
No no, that's not what I meant.  I mean that the time it takes to:
1) Go into connection manager
2) Turn on WiFi
3) Wait for it to connect
4) EXIT from connection manager
5) Fire up Inbox or whatever it was I was going to use the WiFi for...
All that compared with me just using GPRS? GPRS gets the job done faster. I don't do much on my Smartphone that needs a lot of bandwidth - 99% of my Smartphone use is Exchange ActiveSync, email, and checking Thoughts Media threads. So for that, GPRS works quite well.
And yes, I am fortunate enough to have flat-rate GPRS from Fido.
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Mike Temporale
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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oturn wrote: |
This problem has bugged me ever since I got my SP5. It existed in the old ROM, and it persists in the new ROM. |
Oh yeah, it's been there since day one. It's just finally pushed me to the breaking point.
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I saw a thread on either howardforums or modaco where the writer claimed he solved this problem by disabling the Wi-Fi power management settings. I decided to try this myself...and it works! No more Wi-Fi when I've already turned it off! |
Interesting. I'll have to try this tonight. I'll post back on how it turns out.
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Between this glaring bug and the millimeter square contact / incoming call photos, it really makes you wonder. |
Not sure if you've read our post on that. It fully explains the situation, but not why i-mate didn't do something about it. Here's the thread:
http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/a...ion=expand,9849
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Rocco Augusto
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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my girlfriends new SDA has a similar problem. It either will not connect to a network, even if its an unsecure network with no other networks around, or it will just turn on AND off at will.
personally i think microsoft needs to seriously fix the wifi connection manager before they release WM5SE. 
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Kris Kumar
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I hope it is not because any time the Smartphone wants to check email, it remembers that it used WiFi last and tries to use that connection.
I know that Windows Mobile (definitely WM2003 SE and below) has this problem, where you put the phone in the flight mode, and the Inbox tries to connect to download the mail.  WiFi re-connections seems to me like a similar problem.
I wonder if there is a way to tell which is the preferred connection method? And which should be attempted first always?
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Kris Kumar
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Temporale wrote: |
Jerry Raia wrote: |
Hmmmm, my 2125 doesn't seem to have this problem. Anyone elses 2125 do this?  |
There are a lot of problems your 2125 won't have. 
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Sometime less is better.  Our hump-enabled 2125 is just right.
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encece
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Never noticed the problem....now I have to keep an eye out for it.
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Mike Temporale
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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encece wrote: |
Never noticed the problem....now I have to keep an eye out for it. |
What are your power settings set at? (Settings/Connections/WiFi/Power Mode).
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dh
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I very rarely use WiFi on my SP5. Sometimes it works, sometimes it just won't connect, sometimes it connects but doesn't seem to locate web sites.
Generally, I'm another that just uses the regular GPRS/Edge. While the WiFi speed is faster (when it works) for most times it's just not worth the buggering about.
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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both checked and at 10 minutes and 30 seconds respectively.
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Mike Temporale
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encece wrote: |
both checked and at 10 minutes and 30 seconds respectively. |
Funny, those are the same as what I had.
I made the change that oturn suggested above - turning off the second one, and everything seems to be working as expected now. It's really silly that we have to even talk about this. I'm not sure who is responsible for this part of the device (i-mate or Microsoft) but someone needs to teach them off means off.
Where's the QA department in all of this too? 
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